I’m in the grocery store and Yes is playing over the PA system. Sure it’s “Owner of a Lonely Heart”, the shamefully poppy version of Yes, but still.
I feel like I’m in sell out city.
I’m in the grocery store and Yes is playing over the PA system. Sure it’s “Owner of a Lonely Heart”, the shamefully poppy version of Yes, but still.
I feel like I’m in sell out city.
I’ve been a Prog Rock fan since I first discovered Rush in 1981. I was 10 years old and most of what Prog bands did went way over my head, but there was something about Rush that clicked with me. Not long after it was Yes. Then Pink Floyd. Then Genesis. Then King Crimson. And so on and so on.
The 1980’s though, were a pretty dark time for Prog. First we had Asia, which included members of Yes, King Crimson, and Emerson Lake and Palmer, releasing their very commercial, radio friendly, MTV orientated first record which blew away the album and singles charts in 1982. Then a year later we had Yes releasing 90125 in similar financially friendly fashion. Genesis had descended into a hellish pop music abyss by then as well (though there was still good in them if you were able to look past the chart topping crap), and while it would take a few years for them to catch up, even Pink Floyd released a pretty radio friendly record. Rush and King Crimson both morphed into an 80’s sound without really caving into the pop music world, at least not to my ears. I get the impression that Robert Fripp was trying to bend pop music to his own personal will (if anyone could have done it, it was him) while Rush just kept making Rush sounding records that happened to embrace 80’s technology (arguably to their detriment, but also maybe arguably to their benefit).
In other words, prog rock in the 70’s was awesome. Prog rock in the 80’s was… less awesome (though still better than almost anything else… except for some specific Genesis songs [looking at you, Illegal Alien and Invisible Touch]).
But there was one question that I never asked myself, or anyone else for that matter… did I miss anyone? Were there any other bands that I should have been listening to that I wasn’t?
Apparently the answer is yes, yes there was.
Marillion.
Well, there were probably 20-30 bands that I should have listened to but never did (Gentle Giant and Camel come to mind, but not Jethro Tull. Fuck Jethro Tull. I can’t stand that friggin’ band), but I don’t know why Marillion never came up. I think it might be as simple as they were not very big in the United States. They apparently were huge in the UK for a little while at least, and I was actually paying attention to the industry as a whole at that time (their biggest record came out in 1985, the same year as Power Windows by Rush, which I bought the minute it hit the record store shelves). Was that the only reason I never listened to them?
I have been aware of them for ages, of course. Was I aware of them before the internet? If it really was a regional (US vs UK) thing that kept me from them, then the internet would have been what put them on my radar. Recently they have been showing up in a bunch of places online where I happened to have been looking. A few months ago I made a note to check them out on a streaming service somewhere. I don’t recall what made me want to do that, but it was something. I didn’t do it until this past weekend though. Their guitar player was a guest on That Pedal Show and I figured I should at least listen to their biggest record, Misplaced Childhood, before I watched it. I did. I liked it. I thought the record had a sort of 70’s Genesis vibe to it. It was very 80’s, but not in a bad way (and me calling something “very 80’s” is usually meant as a negative).
I thought they dated back to the early 70’s like all of the more important prog bands but no, their first album was in 1982 or 83 (according to the two minutes I spent digging around wikipedia). I think if I had known about them at that time I probably would have gone completely off the deep end for them. They would have been a legit prog band that wasn’t devolving into a commercial/pop shadow of their former selves the way most of the prog acts from the 70s did. I knew they had two singers and that the changing of singers sort of mark different eras of the band, but I didn’t realize the first singer left as quickly as he did (after the forth album).
Yesterday I googled “list of best albums by Marillion” and found one random site that ranked them from worst to best. I listened to the 4-5 “best” albums on the list during the work day and liked most of what I heard, though I have to admit I wasn’t listening all that closely because, ya know, work.
I guess the point of this post is to get myself to accept that while I am a total prog rock snob, there are still a lot of things I don’t know about. Maybe it’s time to start taking advantage of streaming music services (ick) and start digging into the catalogs of some of those bands. Just not Jethro Tull or Dream Theater. I fucking hate both of those bands.
A couple of days ago, Yes announced that Alan White would not be joining them on their upcoming tour. They’ve been bringing an understudy drummer out with them for a while now, but this time Alan was going to stay home.
Today they announced that he has passed away. He was 72 years old.
He has been the drummer for Yes since joining in 1972, just a few days before the start of a US tour to support Close to the Edge. Bill Bruford left to join King Crimson at the last minute and White was his replacement. There were stories of Chris Squire threatening to throw him out of a hotel room window if he didn’t accept the offer, but those probably were just jokes. Probably.
The band he was joining played some of the most complicated and difficult music in the business at that time and he only had three (I think) days to learn the set. He pulled it off because he was an absolute kick ass professional, as well as being good enough to handle it all. There were tales of Jon Anderson turning around and more or less conducting him through some of the show, but regardless, White’s accomplishment was beyond legendary.
I only saw him once, back in 1991. It was in that weird time when there were effectively two versions of Yes. Alan White was in the Los Angeles based arena rock band (Yes West). I was much more into the London based proggie rock band (Yes East), but at that time someone waved enough money at them to get them all to tour as one band. I saw them at the Worcester Centrum. They played in The Round with a revolving stage in the middle of the arena. It was one of the most amazing performances I’ve ever seen any band give. I swear that night’s rendition of Awaken is still reverberating around the rafters to this day. It was stunning.
I should also mention that prior to Yes he was in another notable band. A little combo called The Plastic Ono Band. That’s right, he was John Effin’ Lennon’s drummer. He played on a bunch of things include Imagine. He also played on George Harrison’s first record, specifically My Sweet Lord.
Rest in Peace, Alan White.
I’ve seen a couple of things online over the last few days that reference a Yes song from the second album that I’ve always wanted to figure out but I never quite nailed.

I’m listening to the new Yes record, The Quest. The first Yes record made without Chris Squire.
Track one is good. Everything else… sigh. It’s better than the last record, Heaven and Earth. That album was just boring. I couldn’t listen to it in one sitting. It was just lifeless dull nothing all the way through. (Oddly, that record is no longer on Apple Music or Spotify)
This one is better, but not by much. It opens well but steadily becomes more pointless as the cuts roll past. It’s just a wash of dull.
It’s not a total loss, which is nice, but it’s yet another collection that does nothing but gouge away at the band’s legacy. My advice is to just stop. Please, let it end mercifully. Just stop.
The best part of this video is knowing that Geddy Lee is playing along with some of his heroes, and while he appears cool he is probably freaking out with glee on the inside.
No Bill Bruford on the stage, but he’s retired so I didn’t expect to see him. No Tony Kaye either. I don’t know what his story is. Trevor Rabin is half everyone else’s age but he’s starting to look old.
Geddy Lee is more than a replacement for the late great Chris Squire. There’s nothing missing on the bass guitar front. Still… the lack of Chris Squire’s harmony vocals is a Titanic sized hole in this performance. Hell, you could fly a planet through the Squire sized hole. Rest in peace, Chris Squire.
Yes formed in 1968. From then through last week there were approximately 746253647 different band members, but only one bass player. Chris Squire. He lost a fight with cancer back in June. When he first got sick the band had a tour booked. He had to back out and asked a former band mate to sit in for him. It sounds like his intentions were honorable. If the tour was canceled, all of the crew would be out of work.
When he died, I assumed the tour would be canceled after all. I was wrong. The shows started a few days ago. There are no original members left in the band. The one man who represents the band’s identity, Jon Anderson has been out for years. The most noted guitarist and drummer are there. The keyboard player spent a brief time with the band in 1980, but he’s more known for working with other bands. The keyboard player most fans want to see has been out of the picture forever. Now we replace the one constant with an ex-rhythm guitar player who probably had no business being in the band for the blink of time he was. It’s just not Yes anymore and anyone who shells out money to see them is deluded. They are nothing but a cover band that happens to feature a guy named White and another guy named Howe.
I can forgive the band for carrying on with this tour. It was Chris Squire’s wish that the show go on. Given that, sure let this tour happen. After its through though… Please oh please let Yes stop. Let it end mercifully. Let the cover bands take care of being cover bands. Alan White, Geoff Downes, Steve Howe, John Davidson (is that his name?), please put an end to this.
Just posting this here to save it for later.
I made a playlist out of the entire Yes Progeny box set. Seven complete shows from the Fall of 1972 on the Close to the Edge Tour. If only it were Bill Bruford on drums instead of Alan White. (no disrespect to Mr. White intended at all)
This is the best Hendrix story I’ve ever heard. I just found it by accident. Chris Squire looks about 180 years old.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuEZUG1ci1M
Saving this little Yes documentary for later.